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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 19, 2007 1:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This one counts...or not.

I disagree completely.

Well, not completely, because I think that what everyone said above has merit (all the stuff about the value of the experience, etc.).

But, think for a moment about how much each of you love some other band/singer you never saw (Jimi, Syd, young Bob Dylan, etc., etc.). I think you can get a lot from listening, with the right ear. That's right...and left.

I would say, easily, 90%.

I really believe that. I have to. The DEAD of 68, as you all know, I love beyond all measure, and yet, they are very different from the DEAD of 75 I saw...truly.

I know I can appreciate it, get it, etc., without having seen it.

This is not to diminish the greatness that came with the experience, but rather to point out that "knowing" something can be achieved in a variety of ways; the paths are legion, and often lead to the same place.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Sep 19, 2007 1:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This one counts...or not.

I agree, just because you don't experience the scene does not mean you don't love the music, but that was not the question that was posed. The question, as I understand it was, not could you appreciate or love the band or music for what it was, but "what percentage of actually being there could you experience". My answer remains 0%.

While I love all sorts of different music,I still can't tell you how it was to actually see Miles, or Led Zepplin, or Cream, or any other number of bands live. I can only imagine what it was like to be in the crowd at a Beatles concert, with all those screaming, fainting fans. Seeing videos and hearing the concerts does not make me feel like I was there.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 19, 2007 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This one counts...or not.

Crap. Call me dumb.

Just reading the responses, and only glanced at the question.

Like all good screwups, I say: "what a fucked up question!"

Half in jest--but really, not sure what is meant if literal ("what percentage of being there can you achieve if you were not there?" Or do I still have it wrong? Cause what you are writing, PG, makes a lot of sense to me, so you must be "seeing" the question better than I...maybe it is in reference to the ever elusive "it").

Oh yeah, I also change my answer, like all good screwups when given a second chance, to 0%.

Just as you cannot "know" it by watching a film of "it" or reading about "it" (which I believe; you know something important, BUT different; it is secondary and derived).

This post was modified by William Tell on 2007-09-19 20:56:05

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Poster: Solo Head Date: Sep 19, 2007 2:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This one counts...or not.

O.k. simple ?...aw forget it....this forum is just like a show...lots of far out people with kind hearts and smokin' music.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 19, 2007 2:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This one counts...or not.

Hey Solo--hope you know I was kidding...I really did read the question wrong.

It was most defn a cool thread, and I just wandered off the subject...